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  • JoelJ Offline
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    Joel
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    #23

    is this what you were talking about?
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    no race car? becuz homeowner...

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      Raider
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      is that a pic from the top? if it is then those are the 2 that u have to remove...I sent you a pm

      POWERD BY

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      • JoelJ Offline
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        Joel
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        I got the ignition out and thats the pinout I made for it. Does anoyone know what colors mean what? I know blue is accessory. but other than that, i have NO clue.

        THe gay little lines through them are the tracer colors.

        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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          In the pic you had of the top of the steering lock youll notice to bolts with no head on them, those are breakaway bolts. just notch them with a cutoff wheel or a dremel tool and take a screwdriver to them and remove them. Or use a chisel if room allows. Once you get the ignition cylinder/switch assy out you can unscrew the two or three phillips screws holding the lock and tumbler to the switch itself. Wella, all you need is a screwdriver to start the beatch. Take the lock cylinder to a locksmith at your liesure and have him make you a key. Go to the parts store and get two bolts with the same pitch as the old bolts and bolt er back in. Hope this helps a little.

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          • JoelJ Offline
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            Joel
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            Thanks wes, raider has already given me that very helpful information up there.I dont think anyone gets it. I am not having another key made, I AM MAKING A PUSH BUTTON START. I already got the ignition cylinder off the steering column. What I need is labels to my diagram to figure out how to wire my push button start.

            no race car? becuz homeowner...

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              Joel
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              tjamz wrote:
              Might just be easier to go to a junkyard and buy a new ignition cylinder that has a key already w/ it.

              If not, it will be interesting doing the wiring. You are right, you will need a momentary pushbutton switch to attach to the starter wire(s) probably gonna be a black/yellow wire. As for the other switch you will need a toggle switch to be wired to at least 3 different relays.

              Relay #1 will go to Ignition #1 (black/white wire) when activated
              Relay #2 will go to Ignition #2 (black/red wire) when activated
              Relay #3 will go to Accessory (blue wire) when activated

              As for unlocking the steering, you might be able to just remove the stock ignition cylinder. Get a manual cuz I'm not sure how ford goes about removing them for this vehicle.

              The downside to this is that anyone can steal your vehicle at any time if they can figure out what each switch does.

              So this is what your saying?
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                    basically that is what I'm saying....except that you're gonna want a couple of relays being triggered off that toggle switch to turn on the ignition/ignition2/accessory wires. I have a couple relays laying around my garage somewhere that I'll sell ya for a couple of bucks each (whatever they cost me I'll sell them to you for)...and I'll attempt to explain how to wire them off that toggle switch for ya.

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                    • JoelJ Offline
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                      Joel
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                      ok, I have all day if you want to do it today. I think I am going to try to take out the tumbler and start it so then I could maybe drive it to your place and you could help me out.

                      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                        Joel
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                        SO... is this what you meant tjamz???
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                        Look mah, No keys!
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                        Thanks Raider, Tjamz, Wes, Jim. If it werent for your help, the probe would be doing what it should be, staying off the road.

                        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                          Joel, did you atleast soldier those wires? There are little slide on crimp connectors that are available for those switches, I know that the rest of the probe is ghetto, but the last thing you want is a fire underneath the dash.

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                            Yes I did solder them mr safety. I didn't wanna take the time to run to a hardware store. And thats 15 cents more i can spend on many other things, everypenny counts in junkyard wars! I will eventually crimp those connections when I get a chance to go to a hardware store. All I have left to do is mount the wires, and I'm ready for HIN!wait...

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                              getting closer their Joel, but I'd use a Single Pull Double Throw relay for EACH ignition wire seperately rather than a toggle switch as most toggle switches aren't capable of withstanding the current that your ignition will be pulling. Here is a diagram on how to wire them (my pin numbers may be off, but the layout is right)

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                                Mine works. I don't know if it will wear out the switch or what, but i have used it a couple of times already. I can meet you somehwhere sometime maybe and we could take a look at it. I have no idea what your talking about or what the diagram is for.

                                Plus I cant read any of that!

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                                  joel call me mr safety, but if you don't use a switch that can handle the power, you run the risk of your wires burning up

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                                    yeah, definately worth the money to spend on relays for that added safety. The toggle switch will burn out of time.

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                                      Single Pull Double Throw relays can be purchased at radioshack or I'd imagine just about any parts store or stereo shop. Basically what happens is one side of the relay (Terminal #85 in my example) gets a continuous 12 Volts of power and the other side (Terminal 86)gets a switched Negative 12 Volts of power. When the above happens it closes the contact between terminal 30 (12 Volts Constant) and terminal 87 (Output to ignition circuit) (it might be terminal 87A...I forget which one is the center pin and which is the top pin off the top of my head...either way the top tab/pin is the one you need to connect to) and powers up the ignition circuit.

                                      Like I said, i have a ton of these relays laying around my garage, so if you need a few I can let you have them for my cost.

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                                        Fitzy
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                                        87a is the center pin, just in case haha

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                                          lol..couldn't remember for the life of me. Thanks for clarifying fitzy.

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