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  • JN210J Offline
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    JN210
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    bubba;199339 wrote:
    I said cliff notes when someone's posts are like a couple paragraphs long...not on a whole thread...reading > u...noob

    Obviously your english teachers fail at life too....

    I go to a school out in the middle of frickin nowhere....go figure...

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      can we add another poll on this? I'm wondering how many people still think yes or no.. currently.

      it's weird that three more people have picked "no" since this morning. because the answer is still yes. just like it was when i said no. i'm still ashamed of myself.. my grasp of physics while I'm still half-asleep is usually better. heh.

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        The whole point of this argument is to point out that airplanes aren't propelled by their wheels like a car is, thus going against what is normal for anyone who considers themselves a car guy.

        I asked my dad (Airplane Mechanic at the Air Gaurd, worked on F16's and crap his whole life) and he was quick to answer yes. It just shows that jet powered things (Airplanes or Supras) use thrust not friction

        New question for idiots... will an airplane take off in a vacuum?

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          What I think is funny is that mythbusters proved it flies (I provided links), the youtube link I posted proves the plane can move forward on a moving treadmill and yet people still think the plane cannot take off.

          This is almost as bad as telling someone a car engine can be designed w/o pistons and them not believing it, even after you've just shown them a working rotary motor.

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            tjamz;199292 wrote:
            glad you asked...

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EopVDgSPAk

            How long were you sitting on that one?

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              MisterCMK;199338 wrote:
              Dammit Dave, answer my post about a jet engine on a Supra!!! 😄

              That's a dumb question, because if a jet and a Supra were to swap powerplants, the Supra wouldn't be as fast as it normally would and the 2JZ would make the jet so fast that it's wings would fall off and it wouldn't get off the stupid conveyor belt.

              Duh!

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                I disregard my last answer...I agree with tjamz, My teacher is VERY wrong and yes the plane WILL fly, I talked with my dad about it last night and he knows VERY well about this stuff so he gave me an example.

                If a train (a train big enough for a plane to land on) is moving 200mph -------------->
                and a plane is moving 200mph<-----------

                and the plane somehow lands on this train will it stop flying?......the answer is no, just because the wheels are moving doesnt mean it isnt flying, the wheels are just moving faster so the plane doesnt really care if its on a conveyor or not, in the end it will take off!!!

                Thank you education system:icon_scratch:??
                This must prove that parents know more than teachers think they do....lol

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                  Tell your dad I said thanks,

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                    will do, I guess I should've thought more.

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                      Tjamz has my end covered! The plane will fly!

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                        JN210
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                        Too bad my teacher still doesnt think it will fly....does it make a difference if he is canadian?

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                          I have gone over this before, and i don't feel like reading everything, but yes it will fly because wheels have nothing to do with a plane flying as long as the wind moving across the wings is fast enough to lift it. The wind moving over the top goes faster (less pressure when air is moving) so there is more pressure below pushing it up. How would float planes and ski planes work with no wheels??

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                          > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                          > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                            Bringing this back from the dead......Mythbusters is taking this to the test on Wednesday (From what I hear)

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                              It will take off!! That's my prediction. I'm not going to try and explain, it's just how my minds eye sees it.

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                                I agree, I am expecting it to take off.

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                                  I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.

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                                    Why would the plane not move though? The wheels do not propel it forward, otherwise it would not fly. It will take off.

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                                      Bassplayer;202983 wrote:
                                      I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.

                                      *<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.

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                                        ^^^^Im with the 2 above me, since when have wheels had anything to do with how a plane is propelled??

                                        How would ski planes or float planes work then??

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                                        > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                                        > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                                          tjamz;202989 wrote:
                                          *<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.

                                          Oh god.....here we go again....:icon_shaking: lol

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