Plane on a conveyor belt
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The whole point of this argument is to point out that airplanes aren't propelled by their wheels like a car is, thus going against what is normal for anyone who considers themselves a car guy.
I asked my dad (Airplane Mechanic at the Air Gaurd, worked on F16's and crap his whole life) and he was quick to answer yes. It just shows that jet powered things (Airplanes or Supras) use thrust not friction
New question for idiots... will an airplane take off in a vacuum?
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What I think is funny is that mythbusters proved it flies (I provided links), the youtube link I posted proves the plane can move forward on a moving treadmill and yet people still think the plane cannot take off.
This is almost as bad as telling someone a car engine can be designed w/o pistons and them not believing it, even after you've just shown them a working rotary motor.
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tjamz;199292 wrote:
glad you asked...How long were you sitting on that one?
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
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MisterCMK;199338 wrote:
Dammit Dave, answer my post about a jet engine on a Supra!!!
That's a dumb question, because if a jet and a Supra were to swap powerplants, the Supra wouldn't be as fast as it normally would and the 2JZ would make the jet so fast that it's wings would fall off and it wouldn't get off the stupid conveyor belt.
Duh!
-Peter
1991 240SX
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I disregard my last answer...I agree with tjamz, My teacher is VERY wrong and yes the plane WILL fly, I talked with my dad about it last night and he knows VERY well about this stuff so he gave me an example.
If a train (a train big enough for a plane to land on) is moving 200mph -------------->
and a plane is moving 200mph<-----------and the plane somehow lands on this train will it stop flying?......the answer is no, just because the wheels are moving doesnt mean it isnt flying, the wheels are just moving faster so the plane doesnt really care if its on a conveyor or not, in the end it will take off!!!
Thank you education system:icon_scratch:??
This must prove that parents know more than teachers think they do....lol*1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
> DelSlow;262050 wrote:
> I like the new JN210 -
Tell your dad I said thanks,
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Tjamz has my end covered! The plane will fly!
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I have gone over this before, and i don't feel like reading everything, but yes it will fly because wheels have nothing to do with a plane flying as long as the wind moving across the wings is fast enough to lift it. The wind moving over the top goes faster (less pressure when air is moving) so there is more pressure below pushing it up. How would float planes and ski planes work with no wheels??
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I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.
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Why would the plane not move though? The wheels do not propel it forward, otherwise it would not fly. It will take off.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8 -
Bassplayer;202983 wrote:
I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.*<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.
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^^^^Im with the 2 above me, since when have wheels had anything to do with how a plane is propelled??
How would ski planes or float planes work then??
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tjamz;202989 wrote:
*<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.Oh god.....here we go again....:icon_shaking: lol
*1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
> DelSlow;262050 wrote:
> I like the new JN210 -
inspector01;202994 wrote:
^^^^Im with the 2 above me, since when have wheels had anything to do with how a plane is propelled??How would ski planes or float planes work then??
The wheels have no part other than move the plane.....they are not a part of the plane.....no power to wheels.
*1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
> DelSlow;262050 wrote:
> I like the new JN210
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