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  • JN210J Offline
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    I disregard my last answer...I agree with tjamz, My teacher is VERY wrong and yes the plane WILL fly, I talked with my dad about it last night and he knows VERY well about this stuff so he gave me an example.

    If a train (a train big enough for a plane to land on) is moving 200mph -------------->
    and a plane is moving 200mph<-----------

    and the plane somehow lands on this train will it stop flying?......the answer is no, just because the wheels are moving doesnt mean it isnt flying, the wheels are just moving faster so the plane doesnt really care if its on a conveyor or not, in the end it will take off!!!

    Thank you education system:icon_scratch:??
    This must prove that parents know more than teachers think they do....lol

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      Tell your dad I said thanks,

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      • JN210J Offline
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        will do, I guess I should've thought more.

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          Tjamz has my end covered! The plane will fly!

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          • JN210J Offline
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            Too bad my teacher still doesnt think it will fly....does it make a difference if he is canadian?

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              I have gone over this before, and i don't feel like reading everything, but yes it will fly because wheels have nothing to do with a plane flying as long as the wind moving across the wings is fast enough to lift it. The wind moving over the top goes faster (less pressure when air is moving) so there is more pressure below pushing it up. How would float planes and ski planes work with no wheels??

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              > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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              • JN210J Offline
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                Bringing this back from the dead......Mythbusters is taking this to the test on Wednesday (From what I hear)

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                  It will take off!! That's my prediction. I'm not going to try and explain, it's just how my minds eye sees it.

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                    I agree, I am expecting it to take off.

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                      I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.

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                        Why would the plane not move though? The wheels do not propel it forward, otherwise it would not fly. It will take off.

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                          Bassplayer;202983 wrote:
                          I'm just wondering how the plane gets enough lift to raise it. If its not moving than the only air would be that from the propellor. Idk we'll what happens this wednesday, I'd say depending on the plane it won't talk off. If they get an F16 theres no way any belt can go 800mph and that would take off.

                          *<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.

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                            ^^^^Im with the 2 above me, since when have wheels had anything to do with how a plane is propelled??

                            How would ski planes or float planes work then??

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                              tjamz;202989 wrote:
                              *<u>**Point to the part in the question where it states that the belt holds it stationary. *</u> You can't because that is NOT how the question is stated. It can "match the speed" in the opposite direction, but that does not mean that the plane isn't moving (in fact it HAS to be moving for the belt to move in the first place). What it CAN do is spin the wheels at twice their normal rate, but this will have virtually no affect on whether the plane moves forward or not....it might shorten the life of the tires and/or bearings, but that is all.

                              Oh god.....here we go again....:icon_shaking: lol

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                                inspector01;202994 wrote:
                                ^^^^Im with the 2 above me, since when have wheels had anything to do with how a plane is propelled??

                                How would ski planes or float planes work then??

                                The wheels have no part other than move the plane.....they are not a part of the plane.....no power to wheels.

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                                  This is on wensday? I am totally watching for some plane taking off ownage!

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                                    yup, Wednesday is the day form what I hear.

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                                      Wtf i never said anything about the wheels. Bernoulli's principle defines lift, and if there isn't low velocity below the wing creating high pressure than the plane won't rise.

                                      Ex if you're running on a tread mill is there wind going by you? NO there isn't.

                                      Ex2 If you drive a car on a tread mill at 100mph and stick you're head out the window will you feel any thing? NO

                                      Its not going to fly.

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                                        New question: If you rub peanut butter on the back of a duck, will it go faster?

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                                          Dammit, this thread was put to bed... who woke it up? 😉

                                          Bassplayer, you are making the mistake that a plane and a car are propelled the same way. You are correct that a car will be stationary on a treadmill, because it is driven by it's wheels (which are tied to the treadmill). A airplane will not be stationary, because it's driven forward by a propellor or jet. It doesn't matter how fast you have the treadmill spinning under the airplane because the wheels on an airplane just free-wheel. The plane will start moving forward just like always (except the wheels will be turning like a mofo on the treadmill), gain airspeed, and take off.

                                          Bassplayer;203005 wrote:
                                          Wtf i never said anything about the wheels. Bernoulli's principle defines lift, and if there isn't low velocity below the wing creating high pressure than the plane won't rise.

                                          Ex if you're running on a tread mill is there wind going by you? NO there isn't.

                                          Ex2 If you drive a car on a tread mill at 100mph and stick you're head out the window will you feel any thing? NO

                                          Its not going to fly.

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