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    out there
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    #21

    unless i'm quite mistaken, the main reason that the b18c1 is more rev-happy, is due to it's shorter stroke (87.2mm vs 89)

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      krzydrftr93
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      so is that better then

      Matt
      92 Civic HB
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        krzydrftr93
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        i would like right around the 300hp range sooner or later. I dont want to have to spend a lot on tuning the thing all the time. I just want it to run good and be quick. i would be satisfied if i hit 13 with it in a year or so. summer of 06 i would prolly just do little miner mods like the intake, full exhuast, plugs, wires fuel stuff, ignition and what not.

        Matt
        92 Civic HB
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          bluejays
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          fyi, bolt ons don't do hardly anything to any honda engines except k series

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            seanjohn
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            Everyone I have ever talked to who has done a b-series swap almost always says they wish they would've stay'd d-series and turboed it. Thats my opinion.

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              seanjohn
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              bluejays wrote:
              fyi, bolt ons don't do hardly anything to any honda engines except k series

              ...???

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                btleier
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                BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.

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                  seanjohn
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                  btleier wrote:
                  BUT... bottom line is if you want over 300whp........ you'll either need to b-series turbo, or a well built d-series.

                  I completely agree. The fact of the matter is that you can have as many d-series motors as you are willing to pick up out of people's driveways....b-series are still expensive to replace. Blow up a d-series?!?!?....who cares. In a turbo app there isn't many up's to have the b-motor.

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                    btleier
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                    #29

                    agreed. however it also depends on the person, if you decide to test the limits of the stock d-series make sure that you are willing to put in the time to swap motors/trannies/clutches... if you're not willing to do that, this may not be the route for you.

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                      bluejays
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                      what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.

                      as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.

                      just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?

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                        Jim
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                        ^ i think you underestimate honda motors.

                        also, bolt ons never do shit....

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                          to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                          b16-2000$
                          sleeves-1000$
                          supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                          huge turbo-1000$
                          labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

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                            PSiedTSi
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                            nick made 267whp out of a stock D-series why would building it only be able to yield 300hp? Building a D-series is cheap as hell cause you can get D-series for cheap as hell...

                            At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                            92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                            95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                            1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                            Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                            > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                            > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                              btleier
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                              #34

                              spoolude wrote:
                              to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                              b16-2000$
                              sleeves-1000$
                              supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                              huge turbo-1000$
                              labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

                              untrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.

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                                spoolude wrote:
                                to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                                b16-2000$
                                sleeves-1000$
                                supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                                huge turbo-1000$
                                labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
                                Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...

                                88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                                  HandoEX
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                                  LankorDie wrote:
                                  Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...
                                  Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛

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                                    Bryce
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                                    HandoEX wrote:
                                    Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛
                                    Hahaha, yeah I'm on my way! 🙂

                                    88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                                      krzydrftr93
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                                      #38

                                      im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                                      Matt
                                      92 Civic HB
                                      JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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                                        PSiedTSi
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                                        #39

                                        krzydrftr93 wrote:
                                        im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                                        170hp

                                        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                                        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                                        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                                        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                                        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                          krzydrftr93
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                                          #40

                                          that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?

                                          Matt
                                          92 Civic HB
                                          JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                          legacy image

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