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  • B Offline
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    btleier
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    #29

    agreed. however it also depends on the person, if you decide to test the limits of the stock d-series make sure that you are willing to put in the time to swap motors/trannies/clutches... if you're not willing to do that, this may not be the route for you.

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      bluejays
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      #30

      what i was saying was, simple bolt ons ie: headers, exhaust, cai doesn't increase hp very much on any B, D, H, F series honda engine.

      as far as going D or B if he plans on going with around 300 hp. i have this feeling its going to end up costing him more in parts and labor with a D series in the end, because 300 hp is about as much as you can push out of the D and thats built. now if you blow that up you have to buy another have it built and put in again. 300 hp out of a B series is relatively descent power for a B. your not pushing it to its limits so parts breaking isn't quite as much of a problem.

      just out of curiosity what has tufte all replaced on his D? and what has gsr all replaced on his B?

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      • JimJ Offline
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        Jim
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        #31

        ^ i think you underestimate honda motors.

        also, bolt ons never do shit....

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          #32

          to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

          b16-2000$
          sleeves-1000$
          supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
          huge turbo-1000$
          labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

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          • PSiedTSiP Offline
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            PSiedTSi
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            #33

            nick made 267whp out of a stock D-series why would building it only be able to yield 300hp? Building a D-series is cheap as hell cause you can get D-series for cheap as hell...

            At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

            92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
            Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

            > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
            > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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              btleier
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              #34

              spoolude wrote:
              to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

              b16-2000$
              sleeves-1000$
              supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
              huge turbo-1000$
              labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows

              untrue.... there are a plenty of guys running ridiculous hp numbers on stock sleeves now 400-500whp. go hop on honda-tech and look. they're been using forged internals, but have been keeping the stock sleeves.

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                Bryce
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                #35

                spoolude wrote:
                to make any power with a turbed honda u MUST sleeve the block then it wouldnt matter what motor u went with because u could push 25+ psi and if u want more just go with a bigger turbo..

                b16-2000$
                sleeves-1000$
                supporting mods- lets just say 1000$
                huge turbo-1000$
                labor and shit- idk ask somebody that knows
                Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...

                88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                  HandoEX
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                  #36

                  LankorDie wrote:
                  Damn it Spoolude, we should ban you from "Car Tech"...
                  Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛

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                    Bryce
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                    #37

                    HandoEX wrote:
                    Bryce, can you help me swap an f20c (s2000) head into my accord... 😄 :rolleyes: 😉 😛
                    Hahaha, yeah I'm on my way! 🙂

                    88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                      krzydrftr93
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                      #38

                      im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                      Matt
                      92 Civic HB
                      JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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                        PSiedTSi
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                        #39

                        krzydrftr93 wrote:
                        im thinking the b18c1 is sounding good. Are they quick stock?

                        170hp

                        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                          krzydrftr93
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                          #40

                          that would move a hatch pretty good wouldnt it. I mean yait should move it a lot better then the d15 91 hp moves it. What do you think i could run in the 1/4 with the b18c1?

                          Matt
                          92 Civic HB
                          JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                          legacy image

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                            btleier
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                            #41

                            I don't know times, but yeah that would move a hatchback quite well.

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                              civtegra
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                              #42

                              My hatch has a blown head gasket and it ran a 15.5 with a header and a short cold air intake. i guess from wut i heard not sayin its true but i heard that a htch wit a b18c1 should make a high 14 aec in a 1/4

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                                Phats
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #43

                                14 flat is what 2 guys that did their gsr swaps ran.....with moderate supporting mods, suspension.....intake exhaust header etc.......

                                02 GSXR-1000
                                97 540i

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                                  krzydrftr93
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  14 sec hatch pretty much stock. Well i can beat ricer mustang then. LOL that would be shane. That is cool. 14 is a lot better then the 20 eclipse

                                  Matt
                                  92 Civic HB
                                  JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                  legacy image

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                                    krzydrftr93
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #45

                                    Does anyone know where i can get the following complete swap cheaper:

                                    B18C 94-97 (GSR) Complete Change Over

                                    Price: $ 3149.00 Plus shipping and handling.
                                    Availability: In stock and ready to go.

                                    • Motor
                                    • Hydraulic Tranny (S80, Y80)
                                    • ECU (P72)
                                    • Axles with Half Shaft
                                    • Shift Linkage
                                    • Stock Motor Mounts *
                                    • Alternator
                                    • Starter
                                    • Clutch
                                    • Flywheel
                                    • Intake Manifold
                                    • Exhaust Manifold
                                    • Fuel Rail
                                    • Injectors
                                    • Distributor
                                    • Engine Harness
                                    • Comes With All Sensors Needed
                                    • LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

                                    Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!

                                    • Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for $429. Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.

                                    thanks

                                    Matt
                                    92 Civic HB
                                    JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
                                    legacy image

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                                      integra_gsr98
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #46

                                      That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

                                      Headgasket
                                      Timing Belt
                                      Alternator Belt
                                      and a Clutch

                                      Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

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                                        civtegra
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #47

                                        integra_gsr98 wrote:
                                        That's a good deal on the motor. However when you do that you are going to want to do the following:

                                        Headgasket
                                        Timing Belt
                                        Alternator Belt
                                        and a Clutch

                                        Those are the 4 things I recommend on EVERY swap. Because you really have no idea how many miles are on the motor, how long its sat, etc.

                                        yeah that is very true.

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                                          PSI2HI
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                                          #48

                                          Buying/looking for the cheapest swap out there is just not going to be in your best interest. Buy the most complete and best warrantied swap regardless of price unless you wanna buy twice.

                                          "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                          "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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