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  • PSiedTSiP Offline
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    PSiedTSi
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    for diagrams use mitchell joel you idiot

    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

    92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
    Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
    > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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    • JoelJ Offline
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      Joel
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      PSiedTSi wrote:
      for diagrams use mitchell joel you idiot
      I want it before monday tony, YOU IDIOT. lol. I just got back from LF Ford. Had Hilgers print me one out of their book, but he gave me one for a 93 and i needed 1st gen.gahhh

      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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        Might just be easier to go to a junkyard and buy a new ignition cylinder that has a key already w/ it.

        If not, it will be interesting doing the wiring. You are right, you will need a momentary pushbutton switch to attach to the starter wire(s) probably gonna be a black/yellow wire. As for the other switch you will need a toggle switch to be wired to at least 3 different relays.

        Relay #1 will go to Ignition #1 (black/white wire) when activated
        Relay #2 will go to Ignition #2 (black/red wire) when activated
        Relay #3 will go to Accessory (blue wire) when activated

        As for unlocking the steering, you might be able to just remove the stock ignition cylinder. Get a manual cuz I'm not sure how ford goes about removing them for this vehicle.

        The downside to this is that anyone can steal your vehicle at any time if they can figure out what each switch does.

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        • JoelJ Offline
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          Joel
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          I realize that. This will be stored and only used at the track. I bought the car because it was cheap and I wanted to experiment on something cheap, and test myself on how much I can actually handle before taking on a more serious project. THere will be various break in the circuit for a theft deterant

          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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          • JoelJ Offline
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            Joel
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            Oh yeah, almost forgot. Trying to pull the ignition yesterday, i pulled the steering wheel, turn signal canceler ... etc. I have it all apart and access to the wires. I also have a momentary and toggle accesory switch. I am all ready, I just need the diagram and instructions on how to pull the ignition.

            no race car? becuz homeowner...

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            • JoelJ Offline
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              Joel
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              If this helps, I got my camera working, and heres a few pics of the current situation.
              All torn apart...
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              Ignition breakdown
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              If someone wants to take a stab at naming the wires that would be awesome. CHeck, this ones all you.

              no race car? becuz homeowner...

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              • RaiderR Offline
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                what year and kind of car...I will look for a manual in the shop for ya

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                  if its a 90-91 probe you have to drop the steering column down( remove 4 bolts) and there are 2 break away screws..the heads of the screws break off when u install the ignition cylinder...take a cut off wheel and cut a slot into each screw and use a screw driver to remove the screws...I will post a pic of the breakdown of the steering column

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                  • RaiderR Offline
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                    Raider
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                    if you need anymore help drop me a PM

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                    • JoelJ Offline
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                      Joel
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                      hELL yeah dude thanks a bunch!!!!!

                      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                      • RaiderR Offline
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                        np man...I am a Parts God 😄

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                        • JoelJ Offline
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                          ihey doo those pics help?

                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                            oh and after you remove the ign cylinder you can remove the ign switch from it and start it manually

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                            • JoelJ Offline
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                              Joel
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                              here ill go get a quick pic of theose bolts i think your talking about... tell me if i am right

                              no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                is this what you were talking about?
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                                no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                  is that a pic from the top? if it is then those are the 2 that u have to remove...I sent you a pm

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                                    I got the ignition out and thats the pinout I made for it. Does anoyone know what colors mean what? I know blue is accessory. but other than that, i have NO clue.

                                    THe gay little lines through them are the tracer colors.

                                    no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                      In the pic you had of the top of the steering lock youll notice to bolts with no head on them, those are breakaway bolts. just notch them with a cutoff wheel or a dremel tool and take a screwdriver to them and remove them. Or use a chisel if room allows. Once you get the ignition cylinder/switch assy out you can unscrew the two or three phillips screws holding the lock and tumbler to the switch itself. Wella, all you need is a screwdriver to start the beatch. Take the lock cylinder to a locksmith at your liesure and have him make you a key. Go to the parts store and get two bolts with the same pitch as the old bolts and bolt er back in. Hope this helps a little.

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                                        Joel
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                                        Thanks wes, raider has already given me that very helpful information up there.I dont think anyone gets it. I am not having another key made, I AM MAKING A PUSH BUTTON START. I already got the ignition cylinder off the steering column. What I need is labels to my diagram to figure out how to wire my push button start.

                                        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                        • JoelJ Offline
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                                          tjamz wrote:
                                          Might just be easier to go to a junkyard and buy a new ignition cylinder that has a key already w/ it.

                                          If not, it will be interesting doing the wiring. You are right, you will need a momentary pushbutton switch to attach to the starter wire(s) probably gonna be a black/yellow wire. As for the other switch you will need a toggle switch to be wired to at least 3 different relays.

                                          Relay #1 will go to Ignition #1 (black/white wire) when activated
                                          Relay #2 will go to Ignition #2 (black/red wire) when activated
                                          Relay #3 will go to Accessory (blue wire) when activated

                                          As for unlocking the steering, you might be able to just remove the stock ignition cylinder. Get a manual cuz I'm not sure how ford goes about removing them for this vehicle.

                                          The downside to this is that anyone can steal your vehicle at any time if they can figure out what each switch does.

                                          So this is what your saying?
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                                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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