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  • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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    DrifterExtreme
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    #135

    revolutionz_s13;196277 wrote:
    well, fabers turbo(AMS GT32) is roughly equivalent to a garrett 50 trim, .60 a/r. Which is smaller in size and probably less efficient (AMS wont give out the exact specs) than a GT3076R, .82 a/r. Faber has no problems up top, I dont think I will have to worry about that. There is a guy on ka-t.org that is making 417whp with a similar setup to mine @ 19psi with a gt3076r .82 a/r.

    now see i'm running the same turbo same specs, i got the atp 3" v-band.

    now with my motor i should see full boost buy say 4800ish give or take based on my monster manifold. now i rev to 9k so i will have a power band.

    but unlike you i will not make near the torque you will, so all i'm saying is that you need to look at the fact that it will just make it harder fo ryou to drive the car to it's potential. but i spose we will see next year.

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    • zbrownZ Offline
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      zbrown
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      #136

      kinda curious

      so lets say 400whp....

      how much boost would it take Matt to make that? and how much torque

      vs

      how much boost with the KA, and how much torque

      with identical turbos; the ones you stated above

      rx7-8.89@157mph
      12v dodge, twins

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      • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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        DrifterExtreme
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        #137

        gt3076r, 18 lbs , high 200's for torque.

        now this is with a small .48 turbine

        http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=si&img=397509

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        • R Offline
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          revolutionz_s13
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          #138

          on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
          this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

          here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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          > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
          > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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          • K Offline
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            KA-T_240
            wrote on last edited by
            #139

            revolutionz_s13;196336 wrote:
            on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
            this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

            here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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            Ivan has 40psi on his gt42 sooner then 6k.

            you should have around 20psi at like 4k.

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            • R Offline
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              revolutionz_s13
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              #140

              eh maybe...like i said not too sure about that...i thought it would be about 4200-4400 from when i did all the calculations from the compressor map, but i wasnt sure if i figured right.

              > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
              > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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              • K Offline
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                KA-T_240
                wrote on last edited by
                #141

                you do remember how fast my turbo spools. and yours should spool around the same as mine does. The DBB should somewhat make up for you having a .82ar

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                • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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                  DrifterExtreme
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                  #142

                  ball bearing doesn't mean faster spool...... you should know that faber...haha

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                  • R Offline
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                    revolutionz_s13
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                    #143

                    well in a round about way it does....it takes less force to spin a DBB cartridge than it does to spin a ceramic journal bearing cartridge...which means the turbo wheel will reach higher speeds faster...which means the compressor will flow more air faster = boost faster.

                    > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                    > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                    • K Offline
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                      KA-T_240
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                      #144

                      Yes, i know this. DBB makes the turbo more efficient, also get more devoted lubrication and coolin. and then what nate said.

                      I would be hard, but if you have 2 identical turbos one with journal bearing and the other with the DBB, 95% of the time the DBB will spool faster then JB turbo,

                      WITH ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL

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                      • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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                        DrifterExtreme
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                        #145

                        borg warner? ....

                        haha ok now i'm just being diffecult...

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                        • zbrownZ Offline
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                          zbrown
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                          #146

                          thats interesting, thanks

                          for comparison here is what your typical 13b rew will do

                          here is a graph of a typical single setup.... gt 3582r---1.06a/r

                          13-15 psi, 320-340lb-ft, 400rwhp, full boost 4k

                          you need alot bigger turbo for the same power.......

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                          rx7-8.89@157mph
                          12v dodge, twins

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                            nvrdone
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                            #147

                            Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                            1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                            guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                            2000 SC1 - S1 SPL car, 136.9db atm
                            1988 RX-7 GXL - waiting for my lazy ass to finish high comp turbo swap

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                            • GarageAlchemistG Offline
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                              GarageAlchemist
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                              #148

                              id like to see that...

                              97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                                nvrdone
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                                #149

                                Hopefully by next summer you will. Almost have enough saved for the rebuild.

                                2000 SC1 - S1 SPL car, 136.9db atm
                                1988 RX-7 GXL - waiting for my lazy ass to finish high comp turbo swap

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                                • King RicerK Offline
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                                  King Ricer
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                                  #150

                                  nvrdone;196643 wrote:
                                  Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                                  1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                                  guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                                  damn sounds like the nice set-up! what was your name again?

                                  > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
                                  > But Freitag is a slut....everyone knows this!

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                                  • JN210J Offline
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                                    JN210
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                                    #151

                                    I will be running my stock setup(as if I have another anyway lol).....I just want to get a feel for the sport first, Im going to have some fun and learn a little bit.

                                    *1989 Nissan 300ZX Z31 *
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                                    > DelSlow;262050 wrote:
                                    > I like the new JN210

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                                    • zbrownZ Offline
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                                      zbrown
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #152

                                      nvrdone;196643 wrote:
                                      Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                                      1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                                      guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                                      for a whole 180 rwhp if you are lucky on a tuned S4 stock port 6 port......

                                      rx7-8.89@157mph
                                      12v dodge, twins

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                                        bubba
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                                        #153

                                        Not everyone wants an enourmous turbo that needs anti-lag to spool and a million hp...some want something that'll work good for auto-x

                                        Current Cars:
                                        08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                                        93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                                        90 Honda CRX - Project car
                                        90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                                        Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                        • K Offline
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                                          KA-T_240
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                                          #154

                                          180hp is just fine for auto-x. driver skill and supension are WAY more important then power.

                                          PM me for:
                                          Sandblasting(I use glass beads)
                                          Diesel repairs or performance products.

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