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  • JoelJ Offline
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    Joel
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    I just called out to ford and they told me that their parts computers only go back to 97 so they cant create a key from the VIN number. So i was looking online for solutions and one hit me....PUSH BUTTON IGNITION! I was just wondering if anyone has any hints or help before I start this. I am confident I can figure it out myself, but any help would be wonderful. I think I need 2 switches if I am going to bypass the key... An accesory switch, and a push button for the starter.
    I dont have a manual so I can't fin any wiring diagrams, but I think I can figure it out.

    no race car? becuz homeowner...

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      Have you thought of maybe calling a Locksmith? They can help create a key for you. Or else, go install a new ignition and get new keys and your problem is fixed. I'm sure your tumbler in your ignition has gone through wear as well so brand new keys may not even work... Just trying to save ya time.

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        I thought about it... From what I am told it is fairly expensive. I have a LOT more time than money right now.

        I also encountered another barrier;The steering wheel lock... Does anyone know how I would proceed in disengaging it and taking it out?

        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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        • JimJ Offline
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          if you've noticed when you turn the ignition it just supplies power to a switch.

          Get a momentary 12v dc switch, and wire it up, ghetto like the rest of the probe 😛

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          • JoelJ Offline
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            Joel
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            Any say on the steering wheel lock? Is It something electric or mechanical?

            no race car? becuz homeowner...

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            • JimJ Offline
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              idk rip it all out

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              • RaiderR Offline
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                wannabe wrote:
                Any say on the steering wheel lock? Is It something electric or mechanical?

                the steering lock is mechanical...what year car do you have...I can make a key for 96 and new Fords...If you pop the ignition out then you can unlock the steering lock..or call Curt's lock n key

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                  well with what ever you do, good luck

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                    for diagrams use mitchell joel you idiot

                    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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                    Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

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                    • JoelJ Offline
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                      PSiedTSi wrote:
                      for diagrams use mitchell joel you idiot
                      I want it before monday tony, YOU IDIOT. lol. I just got back from LF Ford. Had Hilgers print me one out of their book, but he gave me one for a 93 and i needed 1st gen.gahhh

                      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                        Might just be easier to go to a junkyard and buy a new ignition cylinder that has a key already w/ it.

                        If not, it will be interesting doing the wiring. You are right, you will need a momentary pushbutton switch to attach to the starter wire(s) probably gonna be a black/yellow wire. As for the other switch you will need a toggle switch to be wired to at least 3 different relays.

                        Relay #1 will go to Ignition #1 (black/white wire) when activated
                        Relay #2 will go to Ignition #2 (black/red wire) when activated
                        Relay #3 will go to Accessory (blue wire) when activated

                        As for unlocking the steering, you might be able to just remove the stock ignition cylinder. Get a manual cuz I'm not sure how ford goes about removing them for this vehicle.

                        The downside to this is that anyone can steal your vehicle at any time if they can figure out what each switch does.

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                          I realize that. This will be stored and only used at the track. I bought the car because it was cheap and I wanted to experiment on something cheap, and test myself on how much I can actually handle before taking on a more serious project. THere will be various break in the circuit for a theft deterant

                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                            Oh yeah, almost forgot. Trying to pull the ignition yesterday, i pulled the steering wheel, turn signal canceler ... etc. I have it all apart and access to the wires. I also have a momentary and toggle accesory switch. I am all ready, I just need the diagram and instructions on how to pull the ignition.

                            no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                              If this helps, I got my camera working, and heres a few pics of the current situation.
                              All torn apart...
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                              Ignition breakdown
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                              If someone wants to take a stab at naming the wires that would be awesome. CHeck, this ones all you.

                              no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                what year and kind of car...I will look for a manual in the shop for ya

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                                  if its a 90-91 probe you have to drop the steering column down( remove 4 bolts) and there are 2 break away screws..the heads of the screws break off when u install the ignition cylinder...take a cut off wheel and cut a slot into each screw and use a screw driver to remove the screws...I will post a pic of the breakdown of the steering column

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                                    if you need anymore help drop me a PM

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                                      hELL yeah dude thanks a bunch!!!!!

                                      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                        np man...I am a Parts God 😄

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                                          ihey doo those pics help?

                                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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