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  • 63vette6 Offline
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    63vette
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    What? I thought you were putting a screw blower on it! 🙂

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    • beachbum_jonB Offline
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      beachbum_jon
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      Lookin good lookin good. I need to get a tig so I can get started on my compounds for my 3rd gen.

      "None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free"

      • Johann Wolfgang vonGoethe, 1749-1832-

      "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One by the sword. The other is by debt."
      -John Adams, 1735-1826-

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      • zbrownZ Offline
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        zbrown
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        63vette;325495 wrote:
        What? I thought you were putting a screw blower on it! 🙂

        sounds like something up your alley, haha

        rx7-8.89@157mph
        12v dodge, twins

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        • zbrownZ Offline
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          zbrown
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          If you have a cummins, dont be an idiot like me and actually fix the KDP

          i never put the 5 cent piece in and it fell out and took my timing case 😞

          That is why i am doing the twins right now too

          instead of doing all the BS to pull the cam in the pickup to change the gearcase i just picked up jacob's 215 pump motor

          figured i'd build a fresh one with some parts to keep it together

          funny thing is when i pulled my original motor (260k) i pulled a rod cap and there is zero copper showing..... crazy

          so just some stuff i am doing to that

          here is the KDP tab installed on this engine...... and I TIGd the cam gear on so it cant walk off. (it had already moved off some)

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          here is the deck cleaned up and prepped, and the block tapped and studs installed

          alot of elbow grease, I didn't use any powertools, i dont want sealing problems

          head is getting worked right now, heavy valve springs/surfacing/valves/guids

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          this pic shows the thread engagement difference from the stock headbolts compared to the A1 studs. (lower tape line is deck height)

          these are prefered over the ARPs, they engage the block more and don't require you to mill down the rocker stands

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          rx7-8.89@157mph
          12v dodge, twins

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          • zbrownZ Offline
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            zbrown
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            the bottom end got bearings, old looked really good though. (the 12v has the good fully machined forged rods)

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            and i added the second turbo drain

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            rx7-8.89@157mph
            12v dodge, twins

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            • funky_monkey58F Offline
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              Fucking sweet dude!

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              • zbrownZ Offline
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                zbrown
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                funky_monkey58;325541 wrote:
                Fucking sweet dude!

                thanks man

                rx7-8.89@157mph
                12v dodge, twins

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                • zbrownZ Offline
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                  zbrown
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                  Ok was at a stand still for a good while waiting for my head to get done.

                  finally got that, they did a good job, i can nearly see my reflection in the deck surface

                  motor is assembled, in, and running...... have one retorque done too

                  ill get some vids and pics of everything complete and some analysis of how it feels when i can push it some when the head is good and seated

                  I had said that i was going to keep it under 10psi till i got some heat cycles and retorques, but the dang thing comes up to 20psi with hardly any fuel now, such a crazy difference

                  with the studs it seems most either have the rocker stands milled down or the valve covers ground to get the valve covers to fit. I took a different approach

                  as such

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                  and the thing already has Luke's links all around on the front end with a box stabilizer so when it was apart i spent the $$ on a Borgeson box and shaft

                  thing goes down the road cherry now

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                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                  12v dodge, twins

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                  • zbrownZ Offline
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                    Ok first of all the Borgeson steering box is wow, money well spent

                    and the response on the twins is CRAZY, and the sounds are crazy, haha

                    i havent pushed it past about half throttle but there it comes up to 35psi like a light switch, EGTs never above 1000* yet

                    the wastegate on the smaller secondary turbo cracks at around 15psi...... up to around 25psi the primary and secondary are running about 50/50 for boost

                    I havent been above that much but above 25psi it moves more to around 2/3 of the boost supported by the primary

                    see what it does when the head is seated good... but for now it is killer

                    here are some pics

                    yes i was one Tbolt clamp short, and i dont have a bend necessary to fab the intake yet

                    here is just a shot of the crossover with the bung i put in it

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                    and i reworked the harness a lot and cleaned that up, ABS crap is gone, grid BS gone, fuel heater BS gone, battery in back, fuel solenoid bs gone

                    you can actually change the fuel filter with ease now

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                    rx7-8.89@157mph
                    12v dodge, twins

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                    • QuadaQ Offline
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                      Quada
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                      Wow that looks good, man! Is your whole truck Rhino-lined?

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                      • funky_monkey58F Offline
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                        funky_monkey58
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                        How well does she start in the cold without the grid stuff?

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                        • capitljC Offline
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                          Quada;325877 wrote:
                          Wow that looks good, man! Is your whole truck Rhino-lined?

                          Indeed haven't you seen it? He uses it to pull the 7 to the right side of the state so we can drool over it.

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                          > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                          > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                          ASE certified parts specialist.
                          2004 Impala LS 3.8

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                            Nice welds, you've got skills!

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                              zbrown
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                              thanks guys!

                              yes the pickup has about 8 gallons of bedliner on it, lol

                              starts fine without the grids, i usually have it plugged in at home though. started in fargo at 0* without problems though. I dont have my timing advance much so that helps as does keeping the stock compression ratio

                              and all my stuff is old, cheap, and slow..... truth

                              rx7-8.89@157mph
                              12v dodge, twins

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                              • zbrownZ Offline
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                                zbrown
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                                Big thanks to Dave H! (again)

                                he got me a new turbo my hands in a week! great, just great

                                I traded my 64/68/14 for a new 66/73/.91 from dave

                                i felt i just needed some more turbine on the primary because drive pressure stayed nice and around 1:1 until i started adding fuel then it made a nice uphill

                                with the new turbo I cant imagine it working any better, boost is instant, and it builds and holds 53psi of boost with 54psi of drive pressure. Moves out very nicely, and it tows like a N14 now

                                I cannot get it to surge no matter what i try, I should of done this much sooner

                                here you can see the difference in the 68 and 73 turbine, the 73 looks much easier flowing, with a clip cast or cut into it

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                                also i had to change the hotpipe up some for a T4 flange, i got an extended flange and man that was slick for making an easy to remove and install brace. I feel it turned out fantastic

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                                new crossover pipe

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                                and the finished pics

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                                easier than stock to get to the oil filter

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                                happy dodge

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                                and a little bit of rice, haha

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                                rx7-8.89@157mph
                                12v dodge, twins

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                                  That's sweet man

                                  no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                    Very cool! Do you have any dyno sheets from the old setup? It would be cool to dyno it now and compare. 😄

                                    DaveH
                                    '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                                      zbrown
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                                      DaveH;325979 wrote:
                                      Very cool! Do you have any dyno sheets from the old setup? It would be cool to dyno it now and compare. 😄

                                      yeah never any dyno beforeit is alot hotter now with the bigger pump though so it really isnt fairbut i do know that if i had done just the twins and nothing else it would of brought about an extra 300ftlbs in WAY sooner

                                      rx7-8.89@157mph
                                      12v dodge, twins

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                                        zbrown
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                                        and here is a vid

                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJkFczQgz7o

                                        rx7-8.89@157mph
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                                        • GrrG Offline
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                                          Grr
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                                          holy balls, ear orgasm. i need to see this thing in fargo again soon

                                          2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                                          2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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