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  • z31Z Offline
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    z31
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    #80

    Intercooler install.:icon_bigsmurf:

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    86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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    • z31Z Offline
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      My track times at Interstate dragways, Sabin MN Sunday August 8:

      My two best runs on 10lbs boost was
      [email protected].... 2.02 60ft
      [email protected].... 1.99 60ft

      My 4 best runs on 12-13lbs boost was
      [email protected] 60ft
      [email protected] 60ft
      [email protected] 60ft
      [email protected] 60ft

      My best run at 15lbs boost was
      [email protected] 60ft

      12-13 lbs boost
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF76ETa951Y
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCWa6BlQKQ0

      15 lbs boost
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0f4jqPBE20

      Race weight was 3500lbs 58mm turbo, drag radials on E85.
      Ported and polished heads with 270H cams 3in exhaust.

      86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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      • wesholeW Offline
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        weshole
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        #82

        What rpm's you shifting at Jason?

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        • z31Z Offline
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          z31
          wrote on last edited by
          #83

          weshole;314771 wrote:
          what rpm's you shifting at jason?

          6000 rpm

          86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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          • wesholeW Offline
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            weshole
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            #84

            Why so low?

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            • z31Z Offline
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              z31
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              #85

              weshole;314774 wrote:
              Why so low?

              6200 is where the cam drops off in power.

              86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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                z31
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                #86

                The car has a basic tune in it, so the tuneup is not ideal. I'm gonna have the car dyno tuned to fine tune the timing and fuel to gain some power in all RPM ranges. Hopefully i can get another 50 horse out of it with timing and fuel adjustments and a little more boost.

                86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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                • wesholeW Offline
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                  #87

                  z31;314779 wrote:
                  6200 is where the cam drops off in power.
                  I cant imagine the drop off is that drastic that you wont still pull hard if you rev higher.

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                    weshole;314797 wrote:
                    I cant imagine the drop off is that drastic that you wont still pull hard if you rev higher.

                    Agreed. Holding the previous gear a little longer can help you get into your mid range power in the next gear. It may also be beneficial to adjust shift times in every gear.

                    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                    92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                    95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                    1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                    Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                    > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                    • z31Z Offline
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                      z31
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #89

                      Ya, i guess i could try going to 7000 rpm next time im at the track.

                      86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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                      • wesholeW Offline
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                        #90

                        I think your car is faster than you showed and it sure seemed that you were definitely shifting way too soon.

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                          that car drops 100hp from 6200-7000. His tq peak is about 4400, shifting any later than 6200 would be a complete waste of time and slow the car down alot.

                          2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                          2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                            what RPM does he drop to when it shifts?

                            At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                            92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                            95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                            1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                            Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                            > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                            > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                              Grr
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                              #93

                              about 4400, shifting at 6200 is about perfect. It really needs a bigger turbine and more cam, but the turbine and housing is killing a solid 40hp up top

                              2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                              2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                                z31
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                                #94

                                I have been thinking about this. I took a look at the rpm drop on each shift, and this is what i came up with:

                                gear 1-2....1700 rpm

                                gear 2-3....1100 rpm

                                gear 3-4....800 rpm

                                gear 4-5.... 500 rpm

                                This is a dyno sheet of the same setup in another z31. The only differance is im using e85 at 15 lbs of boost with 9:1 compression pistons and, he is using 93oct at 20 lbs of boost with 7.8:1 compression pistons.

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                                86 Nissan 300zx 12.43 @ 114 Top End Dragways

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                                  Im assuming the Green is the HP and the blue is the TQ. If that's the case, theres a lot more rpms avail.

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                                    judging by that dyno graph, and given that your car makes the same power at the same rpms, shifting at 6200 is about perfect IMO. Why go past that when your power drops off, when you can shift and be right back in the power again?

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                                      weshole;314903 wrote:
                                      Im assuming the Green is the HP and the blue is the TQ. If that's the case, theres a lot more rpms avail.

                                      Yes.

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                                        weshole;314903 wrote:
                                        Im assuming the Green is the HP and the blue is the TQ. If that's the case, theres a lot more rpms avail.

                                        I'm guessing since Jason has higher compression and less boost his power band is lower rpm just a bit more power.

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                                          Im currently installing manual trans number 3

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